When I was young I would go to ccneorts at the Avalon Ballroom and The Filmore, in San Francisco in the late 1960's. There were new emerging groups like The Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, and Big Brother and the Holding Company with the unknow Janis Joplin as the vocalist. It was crowded auditoriums with hundreds of sweaty people dancing the night away. That gave way to smaller venues. I would go to the jazz clubs and hear the likes of Miles Davis, Thelonius Monk, Phoebe Snow, and so on.Now I don't care for crowds and tend to stray away from ccneorts. Although we have had some summer music festivals in the local city park. Jazz, Big Band, and even Irish music. A blanket on the grass on a warm Summer evening. I can handle that.